Central Maui and Upcountry Water Advisory Committees for the Water Use and Development Plan
First Meeting - November 30th, 2004 - 6:30 - 9:00 PM
Maui Arts & Cultural Center, Meeting Room
Attending were:
| Allen Souza |
Sally Raisbeck |
Lisa Garcia |
Frank Pikrone |
| Robert Reader |
Bruce Faulkner |
Glenn Shepherd |
Lloyd Buell |
| Maria Isotov-Chang |
Ron Sturtz |
Rosemarie Duey |
Carver Wilson |
| Bob Mikell |
David Masters |
Mark O'connor |
Bob Hobdy |
| Phillip Valentine |
Abigail Hale |
Kathy Kaohu |
Alan C. Irvine |
| Burt Sakata |
Lucienne De Naie |
Stephanie Austin |
Hugh Starr |
| Paul Louie |
Clyde Murashige |
John Duey |
Glynnis Nakai |
| Lloyd Fischel |
Ann Coopersmith |
Dick Mayer |
Buzz Stluka |
| Jeff Ahrens |
Ken Rothman |
Peter Martin |
Mahi Manuel |
| Sumner Erdman |
Ralph Johansen |
Jim Neiss |
Monnie Gay |
| Noah Francis |
Joanne Ide |
Andrew Sands |
Bob Collum |
| Rick Hackendahl |
Kathleen Ross Aoki |
Milton Arakawa |
Glenn Tremble |
| Greg Heyd |
Avery Chumbley |
Jay Penniman |
Garret Hew |
| Jock Yamaguchi |
Warren Watanabe |
Steven Cabral |
Gerald Matsui |
| Ginny Karpovich |
Will Garvin |
David Padgett |
Robert Karpovich |
| Dan Clegg |
John P. Maloney |
Willie Blietz |
Wesley Wong |
| DWS STAFF |
CONSULTANTS |
| George Tengan |
Eva Blumenstein |
Carl Freedman |
| Ellen Kraftsow |
Anita Romena |
Teya Penniman (facilitator) |
| Edna Manzano |
Roy Silva |
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1. General Introduction
Mahi Manuel offered the blessing. During the blessing, we were asked
to remember that water is necessary for all of us, that it is sacred,
and that we should undertake this effort with a sense of reverence,
gratitude and respect both for the gift of water and for each other, and
work together to benefit the entire community.
After the blessing was given, staff, consultants and participants
introduced themselves.
Facilitator Teya Penniman reviewed the meeting process and ground rules:
- Show Respect
- Listen
- Wait until the previous speaker has stopped before you begin
- Avoid personal attacks and accusations
- Respect time limitations and considerations - Keep It Brief
- Express yourself in terms of needs, interests, desired outcomes
- Avoid establishing hard line positions
- Wait to speak again until others have had an opportunity to speak
2. Description of the Water Use and Development Plan Process & Requirements
Short presentation by Carl Freedman
The Water Use & Development Plan is defined by the State Water Code as part
of the Hawaii Water Plan. It is a long range plan, meant to provide policy
guidance, and to allocate water to land use as well as to set the basis for
DWS functional planning. It is adopted by the County Council as an ordinance
and could include or recommend specific policy measures or additional draft
ordinances, such as landscape conservation, availability or etc. The
requirements for the Water Use & Development Plan are found in the State
Water Code, with guidelines in the
Framework for Updating the Hawaii Water
Plan. The process must comply with various state & county rules as well as
the County Charter, General and Community Plans. The Water Use & Development
Plan is drafted using an IRP, or Integrated Resource Planning process. Key
elements of IRP are the integration of public participation into the planning
process, the integration of efficiency as a resource option into the planning
analysis, and the integration of consideration of indirect and external costs.
The IRP approach in a nutshell is to identify objectives & criteria; determine
future water demands; identify potential resource options to meet those demands,
and then combine potential resources into various potential resource strategies
that can be evaluated against selected criteria and scenarios. The presentation
covered additional information on requirements, history and the planning process.
Handouts of the brief PowerPoint are attached to these minutes.
3. Meeting Participants Introduce Themselves
People were asked to indicate which region and which stakeholder group and
interest they most identified with. Twenty-six (26) were from Central Maui
and thirty-one (31) were from Upcountry.
| By Stakeholder Characteristic |
By Stakeholder Interest |
| Single Family |
38 |
Environment |
30 |
| Multi Family |
5 |
Stream Users |
17 |
| Agricultural |
19 |
Hydropower |
3 |
| Ag Zoned Res |
15 |
Development |
12 |
| Hotel |
0 ! |
Resorts |
3 |
| Commercial |
5 |
Reclaimed |
12 |
| Government |
2 |
Private Well Owners |
5 |
| Private Purveyors |
2 |
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| Hawaiian Homelands |
1 |
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| Kuleana / Riparian |
3 |
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| Stream Users |
17 |
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4. Discussion of Objectives, Policies & Criteria
This discussion included two exercises. The first was the general
questions, "What would make this a good Water Use & Development Plan?",
"What should the process be?", "What should the plan accomplish"?
Responses to these questions were:
- Viable process with impact on policy
- Transparency of Information
- Make Data Available
- Sustainable water supply for numerous generations, not just 20 years.
- Water Meters for family subdivisions.
- Assess current status of the resource before allocating it.
- Install infrastructure ahead of the growth curve.
- Close the Hamakuapoko wells - find instead cleaner water for people and
nearshore reefs
- Cleaner water
- Select sources mauka of agricultural uses
- Address externalities / hidden costs.
- Consider near-shore impacts / human and environmental.
- Enforcement for water use reporting and other items identified by plan
as necessary.
- Public trust doctrine and hierarchy of uses.
- Insure adequate funding for good planning and for implementation of the
plan.
- Infrastructure for growth regions - large and small scale both.
- Follow - 174-C 31(c)(2) re: Fish, Wildlife, Stream habitat.
- Water Quality
- Dediated source of funding for watershed protection
- Restore and maintain natural stream flow
- Encourage use of recycled water
- Long-term viability of alternate sources such as desalinization
- Incorporate maximal / best efficiency measures (catchment, incentives, etc.)
- Decrease demand on public water systems
- Think long-term - keep site of children, grandchildren
- Post-sugar allocation of existing surface water sources
- Water for essential services - fire, hospital, etc.
- Present general plan group with relevant questions re: water
- Speed up the process
- Use a longer planning horizon - 50 years
- Re-affirm traditional and customary rights & practices
- Address coordination with planning - for ex: address WUDP decisions in the
permit review process - incremental growth consistent with WUDP objectives
- Interconnectivity & redundancy in source & distribution systems - reliability?
- Adequate storage
- Stress, emphasize and encourage water conservation
- Renewable Energy for electric use - self sufficient energy for reliability,
no outages, etc.
- Keep infrastructure ahead of demand
- Define the resource more carefully. Water is a valuable strategic commodity.
- Recognize the growing importance of water and put it in its proper place.
- Recognize the true value of water
- Dealt-solar-wind-powered aquifer recharge. outside potable system.
- View the water resource here as an isolated closed system.
- 174-C-71 Protect instream uses.
- Responsible and equitable management of ALL water resources, public and
private
- Encourage people with special knowledge to come forward and be part of
this process.
- Commitment to open and honest dialogue / department, mayor, council.
- Adequate and affordable water for agricultural uses
In the second exercise, people were asked to state objectives in terms of only
a few words, starting with either the word "Maximize" or the word "Minimize".
Responses were:
- Maximize water quality
- Maximize stream flow
- Minimize operational costs
- Maximize system maintenance
- Minimize water service interruptions
- Maximize rainfall retention
- Minimize waste
- Maximize aquifer recharge
- Minimize additives
- Minimize exposure to pollutants
- Maximize water retention / forest protection
- Minimize urbanization in watersheds
- Maximize accountability - especially for water quality
- Maximize public education and awareness
- Maximize the use of native species
- Maximize the hunt for a hydrologist
- Maximize working conditions (employee satisfaction)
- Maximize the use of data
- Maximize public access to data
5. Distribution of Information
Handouts provided in agenda packets and on the table included:
- HRS 174-C Hawaii State Water Code
- Framework for Updating the Hawaii Water Plan
- Summary Sheets - Bullets summarizing WUDP requirements and process
- Central Maui & Upcountry Water Advisory Committee Participant Information Form
- PRELIMINARY DRAFT - Demand Chapter (for those interested in technical review)
Results of the Water Advisory Committee Participant Information Form
Fifty-seven (57) forms have been collected and tallied so far.
A report is attached listing comments and suggestions provided.
Would you say you most represent:
| Environment |
28 |
| Hawaiian Interests |
10 |
| Agriculture |
32 |
| Elderly |
9 |
| Residential |
34 |
| Aquaculture |
18 |
| Stream Users |
14 |
| Hydropower |
8 |
| Development |
11 |
| Commercial |
8 |
| Industrial |
4 |
| Resort |
6 |
| Reclaimed Water |
13 |
Comments regarding your interests in this process:
- Examining & Impacting a broad planning issue.
- Protecting non-kuleana riparian rights.
- Save drinking water.
- Cross connection control and backflow prevention.
- Issuing more Upcountry water meters.
- Strategic sustainable and accountable development of infrastructure.
- Agriculture
- Long term resident
- Spent years building bottled wter plants and waste water treatment
systems. Have a better understanding of water sources, water chemistry
and water reuse than most citizens. Hope to represent them.
- Private landowner rights which include the harvest and distribution
of water from our lands and system.
- Represent my children and grandchildren.
- Maximize the use of water catchment with incentives such as tax breaks
for home uses, "free rain" water.
- Recharging the aquifers with sterilized reclaimed wastewater effluent,
desalt of brackish lens and using reclaimed wastewater for irrigation
and residential toildt flushing.
- Representing my granddaughter's grandchildren
- Reclamation of land resources to provide watershed
- Part owner of 3 public related water companies, concerned about any
regulatory or legal challenges that will effect our water companies. How
do we interact with the state water commission?
- Best use of a limited resource at reasonable rates and implementation
in the Maui County General Plan.
- Haiku Community Association Board Member and Water Board liaison,
aquaculture farm owner
- Fair & efficient management of all water resources, streams, groundwater,
springs, and the watersheds that support them to insure adequate and
sustainable water supply.
- I probably fit the general public - 30 year old group. Looking at my
future & children's water use and how their plan will potentially effect
my age group
- Private landowner rights and Agriculture water.
- General including my ohana. I have always felt like this is my kokua.
I am neutral but local oriented. I will be able to do focus/investigative
efforts.
- Implemetnation of the state water code, kuleana water rights
- Central and Upcountry areas ranching, agriculture, private landowner,
private water systems
- Personal deep concern of future of this finite resource, Professional
creating a good realistic plan, keep track of progress of this process
for my council member
- Aiding in the effort to provide more water to all areas, especially
remote but increasingly populated areas.
- Maui Tomorrow Foundation, water resource proteciton and equitable
distribution. Conservation.
- Interest and expertise in Maui's environment.
- Resort development including single family, multi-family and commercial
development.
- Live on ag land off county water system. use stream water for household
and small ag use ?Riparean rights.
- Water use is key to good planning for maui. Water Planning must come
before development.
- Clarifying our understanding of water quality and increasing the
public's awareness of our water quality & the effects of pollutants.
- Are EMI, Wailuku Agribusines and A&B going to be a part of this process
and disclose their roles in this process?
- Need water for ag.
- Long range planner assigned to represent Planning Department and the
General Plan update.
- Member of the Water Board & Upcountry resident.
- Active Citizen, How Involved? I will know as I get into it.
- I would represent natural resource (wetlands) and watershed management.
- Manage 3 public water companies on West Maui. Live in Paia and have
concerns about the overall water needs of Maui. I have a degree in
economics.
- I have been a resident of Upcountry Maui for 30 years. There has rarely
been adequate supply.
There are over 1,000 people on the waiting list for meters upcountry.
- Or interest is water availability for land development projects within a
smart growth plan.
- Assistant administrator at Maui Memorial Hospital.
- I'm charged with developing and revising a multi-hazard irrigation plan
for Maui County Civil Defense Agency. Drought management is part of the plan.
- Monsanto Company Water Resources in South Maui. I am here to work with
the group to preserve Monsanto's FTO.
- Traditional Hawaiian water rights, stream restoration, water quality
- To be able to participate in a process that leads to the long term
sustainability of the island's drinking water.
- Maximize process !!
- Resident Manager Wailea Point AOAO
- The process, whatever it is , is not elicited. The Water Department deludes
itself on most issues and elements of water protection and exploration. Hire
an experienced hydrologist, provide staff people with adequate space to work
in, Reorganize and upgrade the Water Department, Provide the research data and
expertise for water staff.
- Alternative water resources, new water resources, expanding recycled water use.
- Represent interest of A&B properties, would like to attend, listen and learn.
- Hui Na Wai Eha
- Integration of the water plan into the County General Plan
- We are an aquaculture farm and orchid nursery.
- Maximize water sources.
Other Comments or Suggestions:
- Afternoon meetings preferable, ending by 4 P.M. if possible. Especially
concerned with West Maui.
- Want record, information of prior discussion since 1987 to present, or are
we starting from new?
- Perhaps set up an internet-based chat/post area (outside Maui County internet,
Yahoo or MSN?) where concerned citizens coudl go and compare notes & share info,
etc.
- Planning is necessary but loses value if not backed by adequate funding.
- Evening meetings.
- Confused about how state law will affect county decisions & our goal-setting.
What about McBride, Waihole/Waikani (court cases)? Does state law impact right
to move water from one watershed to another?
- Great food :-)
- Please be punctual or this may take more than two years...
- Would prefer meeting times during the work day (Mon-Fri 7 am - 5 pm)
- Evenings - maybe a subcommittee
- You need help & expertise in sensible water production and resources
- Hope that action committees are balanced in their makeup, that they fairly
represent all concerns. Too often special interest groups dominate such
committees.
- Finish all work by end of 2005. Do we assume that this only deals with
fresh water and not coastal waters?